Fwd: video and TCP interaction

This seem particularly relevant here. Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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It is interesting that this paper references RFC 5681 when it finds that the OS after a period of inactivity goes back to initial (restart) cwnd of 10 packets :-) Thanks, Murari -----Original Message----- From: rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no [mailto:rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Matt Mathis Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:56 AM To: rtp-congestion Cc: Nandita Dukkipati Subject: [R-C] Fwd: video and TCP interaction This seem particularly relevant here. Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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SSR is a killer in http streaming apps and there are certain ways to avoid that long inactivity that will trigger SSR. There are quite a number of servers out there running a particular OS that do not implement SSR at all.
-----Original Message----- From: tcpm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tcpm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murari Sridharan Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:05 PM To: Matt Mathis; rtp-congestion; tcpm (tcpm@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [tcpm] [R-C] Fwd: video and TCP interaction
It is interesting that this paper references RFC 5681 when it finds that the OS after a period of inactivity goes back to initial (restart) cwnd of 10 packets :-)
Thanks, Murari
-----Original Message----- From: rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no [mailto:rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Matt Mathis Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:56 AM To: rtp-congestion Cc: Nandita Dukkipati Subject: [R-C] Fwd: video and TCP interaction
This seem particularly relevant here.
Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard
http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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More interesting than IW10 on CDNs, "Service C" (which must be Vudu) streams at 9M! The RMCAT evaluation criteria should include testing with competing DASH flows (Vudu for fireworks bigger than those in Vancouver). Mo -----Original Message----- From: rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no [mailto:rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Murari Sridharan Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:05 PM To: Matt Mathis; rtp-congestion; tcpm (tcpm@ietf.org) Cc: Nandita Dukkipati Subject: Re: [R-C] Fwd: video and TCP interaction It is interesting that this paper references RFC 5681 when it finds that the OS after a period of inactivity goes back to initial (restart) cwnd of 10 packets :-) Thanks, Murari -----Original Message----- From: rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no [mailto:rtp-congestion-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Matt Mathis Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:56 AM To: rtp-congestion Cc: Nandita Dukkipati Subject: [R-C] Fwd: video and TCP interaction This seem particularly relevant here. Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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hi matt, thanks for the interesting pointer. at page 2, note 2 says "services that control both the server and the client (eg youtube)..." do you have a reference to this youtube feature? regards, saverio On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Matt Mathis <mattmathis@google.com> wrote:
This seem particularly relevant here.
Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard
http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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On 08/28/2012 08:04 PM, Saverio Mascolo wrote:
hi matt,
thanks for the interesting pointer.
at page 2, note 2 says "services that control both the server and the client (eg youtube)..."
do you have a reference to this youtube feature? The Web client for YouTube is written in Javascript. It's controlled by the service. The CDN for YouTube is also controlled by the service.
I don't think the reference is to any particular YouTube feature.
regards, saverio
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Matt Mathis <mattmathis@google.com> wrote:
This seem particularly relevant here.
Confused, Timid, and Unstable: Picking a Video Streaming Rate is Hard
http://www.stanford.edu/~huangty/videoRateAdapt.pdf
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Ali C. Begen (abegen)
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Harald Alvestrand
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Matt Mathis
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Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)
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Murari Sridharan
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Saverio Mascolo