Hello folks, as you know, I'd circulated a charter to the IESG for "internal review", proposing to start a working group on this topic. Based on feedback and discussion with fellow ADs, I've decided to slow down a little, and would like to suggest that some of you work up a TSV BoF proposal for Paris. I would hope this could be a WG-forming BoF, and that in the time leading up to it, we could be formulating a few things into I-Ds to discuss, in order to test/demonstrate that the group is on the same page: 1 - problem statement(s) (there are pieces of a few emails that could be a good start to this) 2 - requirements (again, there are a few emails that could be a starting point for this) 3 - proposed algorithms and other mechanisms (there is at least one I-D that fits this, more would be good, especially as there are multiple facets of the problem to be addressed) 4 - thoughts on how to test and evaluate algorithms (there seem to be less concrete thoughts on this so far?) Holding a WG-forming BoF would be a bit more conventional process, but potentially lead to greater success and seem less like we are creating a WG out of thin air. Another big advantage that was pointed out to me is that the BoF does help draw attention and perhaps bring more people and expertise to the group. BoF proposals are due 2/13 according to the cut-off dates list. Some procedures and guidelines are: http://www.ietf.org/iesg/bof-procedures.html -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems