Hi Harald, 

   I think there's some misunderstanding here.

   1.  ledbat is using qeueing delay, not the base rtt, the queuing delay is relative_owd - relative_base_owd, and clock skew is removed.

   2. I mentioned ledbat here for i think there's simpler way to get the queuing delay as a hint for congestion, and can be used for give estimation of bandwidth.


Thanks
Jeromy

2012/4/6 Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
On 04/06/2012 01:45 AM, Matt Mathis wrote:
There is one especially useful design point to extract here.....

I believe that by default ledbat has a 50mS set point.  That is, it regulates its rate/window size by sensing if the one way queue time seems to be above or below 50mS.
That is - 50 ms more than the baseline (lowest observed) RTT?
50 ms absolute would make no sense, since intercontinental conferencing has a longer baseline RTT.


Would this be acceptable for RTCweb, or would it be necessary to choose some other set point?
I generally don't like set-points, since they tend to make behaviour converge on the set-point. Sliding scales like the Kalmann filter of Stefan's proposal make more sense to me.

That said, 50 ms seems a little on the high side, given that our total RTT budget is being attacked from all sorts of directions, but not order-of-magnitude wrong.


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