On 03/28/11 14:31, Robin Raymond wrote:

Pinning as an app tab is not something the average user is going to know how to do and it does not remove the search bar or the ability to navigate away. While it might be a possible solution if browsers added this concept programmatically (relying on the user is not practical IMHO), that would open another can of worms on how to prevent abuse where ads start creating themselves as auto-pinned "app" tabs.

While it might not be a concern for the draft per-say, if you design something that in practice doesn't work in the real world it will be a draft/RFC that won't get wildly adopted and that's death for anything as implementation is critical. I think it's important not to ignore this issue and a workable solution must be found or it will never get used by real users.
There's an even simpler workaround employed by many pages with in-progress state:

Attaching a Javascript popup to the "close" action saying "You're in the middle of a call. Do you want to hang up?"

A more advanced implementation with background app pages would offer multiple choices:
- Suspend the call, but make it available for resumption
- Keep the call open, running in a background page
- Hang up the call
I think Javascript has the necessary hooks, and we can leave this one to the UI designers.

                 Harald


Robin Raymond
hookflash

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry <tterriberry@mozilla.com> wrote:
In my own situation, I have a list of common viewed websites at the top
of my browser and a simple accidental click will go to those new pages.

If that's your biggest concern, then I have good news for you. Firefox 4 has a feature called App Tabs designed to address these use cases (I believe Chrome has something similar, but I don't use it so I don't actually know). More information here: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/what-are-app-tabs, but the relevant sentence is: "Links to new websites open in a new tab so that your App Tab doesn't change." I think this does exactly what you want.

In any case, this is fundamentally an issue for the user-agent, and not, I think, one that has much impact on the actual standards.
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